LegCo Paper No. CB(3) 859/95-96
THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL
MINUTES
No. 30 of 1995/96
Minutes of the sitting held on Wednesday 29 May 1996 at 2.30 p.m.
Members present:
President :
The Honourable Andrew WONG Wang-fat, O.B.E., J.P.
The Honourable Allen LEE Peng-fei, C.B.E., J.P.
The Honourable Martin LEE Chu-ming, Q.C., J.P.
Dr the Honourable David LI Kwok-po, O.B.E., LL.D.(Cantab), J.P.
The Honourable NGAI Shiu-kit, O.B.E., J.P.
The Honourable SZETO Wah
The Honourable LAU Wong-fat, O.B.E., J.P.
The Honourable Edward HO Sing-tin, O.B.E., J.P.
The Honourable Ronald Joseph ARCULLI, O.B.E., J.P.
The Honourable Mrs Miriam LAU Kin-yee, O.B.E., J.P.
Dr the Honourable Edward LEONG Che-hung, O.B.E., J.P.
The Honourable Albert CHAN Wai-yip
The Honourable CHEUNG Man-kwong
The Honourable CHIM Pui-chung
The Honourable Frederick FUNG Kin-kee
The Honourable Michael HO Mun-ka
Dr the Honourable HUANG Chen-ya, M.B.E.
The Honourable Emily LAU Wai-hing
The Honourable LEE Wing-tat
The Honourable Eric LI Ka-cheung, J.P.
The Honourable Fred LI Wah-ming
The Honourable Henry TANG Ying-yen, J.P.
The Honourable James TO Kun-sun
Dr the Honourable Samuel WONG Ping-wai, M.B.E., F.Eng., J.P.
Dr the Honourable Philip WONG Yu-hong
Dr the Honourable YEUNG Sum
The Honourable Howard YOUNG, J.P.
The Honourable Zachary WONG Wai-yin
The Honourable Christine LOH Kung-wai
The Honourable James TIEN Pei-chun, O.B.E., J.P.
The Honourable LEE Cheuk-yan
The Honourable CHAN Kam-lam
The Honourable CHAN Wing-chan
The Honourable CHAN Yuen-han
The Honourable Andrew CHENG Kar-foo
The Honourable Paul CHENG Ming-fun
The Honourable CHENG Yiu-tong
Dr the Honourable Anthony CHEUNG Bing-leung
The Honourable CHEUNG Hon-chung
The Honourable CHOY Kan-pui, J.P.
The Honourable David CHU Yu-lin
The Honourable Albert HO Chun-yan
The Honourable IP Kwok-him
The Honourable LAU Chin-shek
The Honourable Ambrose LAU Hon-chuen, J.P.
Dr the Honourable LAW Cheung-kwok
The Honourable LAW Chi-kwong
The Honourable LEE Kai-ming
The Honourable LEUNG Yiu-chung
The Honourable Bruce LIU Sing-lee
The Honourable LO Suk-ching
The Honourable MOK Ying-fan
The Honourable Margaret NG
The Honourable NGAN Kam-chuen
The Honourable SIN Chung-kai
The Honourable TSANG Kin-shing
Dr the Honourable John TSE Wing-ling
The Honourable Mrs Elizabeth WONG CHIEN Chi-lien, C.B.E., I.S.O., J.P.
The Honourable Lawrence YUM Sin-ling
Member absent:
The Honourable Mrs Selina CHOW LIANG Shuk-yee, O.B.E., J.P.
Public officers attending:
- Mr Michael SUEN Ming-yeung, C.B.E., J.P.
- The Chief Secretary
- Mr Rafael HUI Si-yan, J.P.
- The Financial Secretary
- The Honourable Jeremy Fell MATHEWS, C.M.G., J.P.
- The Attorney General
- Mrs Katherine FOK LO Shiu-ching, O.B.E., J.P.
- Secretary for Health and Welfare
- Mr Joseph WONG Wing-ping, J.P.
- Secretary for Education and Manpower
- Mr Peter LAI Hing-ling, J.P.
- Secretary for Security
- Miss Denise YUE Chung-yee, J.P.
- Secretary for Trade and Industry
- Mr LAM Woon-kwong, J.P.
- Secretary for the Civil Service
- Mrs Lessie WEI CHUI Kit-yee, J.P.
- Secretary for Financial Services
- Mr Leo KWAN Wing-wah, J.P.
- Secretary for Economic Services
- Mrs Rita LAU NG Wai-lan, J.P.
- Secretary for Recreation and Culture
- Mrs Stella HUNG KWOK Wai-ching, J.P.
- Secretary for Home Affairs
Clerks in attendance:
Mr Ricky FUNG Choi-cheung, Secretary General
Miss Pauline NG Man-wah, Assistant Secretary General (1)
Mr Ray CHAN Yum-mou, Assistant Secretary General (3)
The following papers were laid on the table pursuant to Standing Order 14(2):
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1. Residential Care Homes (Elderly Persons) (Appeal Board) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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198/96
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2. Sewage Services (Sewage Charge) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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199/96
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3. Sewage Services (Trade Effluent Surcharge) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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200/96
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4. Import and Export (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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202/96
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5. Pounds Fees (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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203/96
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6. Animals and Plants (Protection of Endangered Species) Ordinance (Amendment of Schedule 4) Order 1996
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204/96
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7. Plant (Importation and Pest Control) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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205/96
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8. Public Health (Animals and Birds) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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206/96
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9. Dairies (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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207/96
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10. Public Health (Animals and Birds) (Exhibitions) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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208/96
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11. Public Health (Animals) (Boarding Establishment) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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209/96
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12. Public Health (Animals and Birds) (Animal Traders) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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210/96
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13. Public Health (Animals) (Riding Establishment) (Amendment) Regulation 1996
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211/96
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14. Official Languages (Alteration of Text) (Air Pollution Control Ordinance) Order 1996
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212/96
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15. Designation of Museums (Amendment) Order 1996
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213/96
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16. Public Health and Municipal Services Ordinance (Civic Centres) (Amendment of Thirteenth Schedule) Order 1996
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214/96
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17. Public Health and Municipal Services Ordinance (Public Markets) (Designation and Amendment of Tenth Schedule) (No.2) Order 1996
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215/96
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18. Public Health and Municipal Services Ordinance (Public Pleasure Grounds) (Amendment of Fourth Schedule) (No.3) Order 1996
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216/96
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19. Hawker (Urban Council) (Amendment) Bylaw 1996
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217/96
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20. Slaughterhouses (Urban Council) (Amendment) Bylaw 1996
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218/96
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21. Declaration of Markets in the Urban Council Area (Amendment) (No.2) Declaration 1996
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219/96
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22. Chinese Permanent Cemeteries (Amendment) Rules 1996
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220/96
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23. Shipping and Port Control Regulations (Amendment of Seventh Schedule) (No.2) Notice 1996
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221/96
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24. Medical Registration (Amendment) Ordinance 1996 (7 of 1996) (Commencement) Notice 1996
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222/96
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25. Merchant Shipping (Safety) (Amendment) Ordinance 1996 (20 of 1996) (Commencement) Notice 1996
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223/96
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26. Official Languages (Authentic Chinese Text) (Hong Kong Treasury Bills (Local) Ordinance) Order
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(C) 51/96
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27. Official Languages (Authentic Chinese Text) (Hong Kong Treasury Bills (London) Ordinance) Order
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(C) 52/96
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28. Official Languages (Authentic Chinese Text) (Air Pollution Control Ordinance) Order
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(C) 53/96 |
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No. 83
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Revisions of the 1995/96 Estimates approved by the Urban Council during the fourth quarter of the 1995/96 financial year
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No. 84
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Regional Council Revised list of works annexed to the Regional Council's Revised Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 1995/96 |
1. Miss Christine LOH asked Question 1.
The Secretary for Economic Services replied.
Six Members asked supplementaries and the Secretary for Economic Services replied.
2. Mr Howard YOUNG asked Question 2.
The Secretary for Security replied.
Four Members asked supplementaries and the Secretary for Security replied.
3. Mrs Elizabeth WONG asked Question 3.
The Secretary for Recreation and Culture replied.
Two Members asked supplementaries and the Secretary for Recreation and Culture replied.
4. Mr CHEUNG Hon-chung asked Question 4.
The Secretary for Education and Manpower replied.
Four Members asked supplementaries and the Secretary for Education and Manpower replied.
5. Miss CHAN Yuen-han asked Question 5.
The Secretary for Security replied.
Four Members asked supplementaries and the Secretary for Security replied.
Written replies to Questions 6 to 18 were tabled for Members information.
The bills were read the first time and ordered to be set down for second reading pursuant to Standing Order 41(3).
The Secretary for Home Affairs moved the second reading and addressed the Council.
Question on the second reading proposed. The President stated that in accordance with Standing Orders, the debate was adjourned and the bill was referred to the House Committee.
The Secretary for Health and Welfare moved the second reading and addressed the Council on each of the above two bills.
Question on the second reading proposed. The President stated that in accordance with Standing Orders, the debates on the above bills were adjourned and the bills were referred to the House Committee.
The Secretary for Education and Manpower moved the second reading and addressed the Council on each of the above two bills.
Question on the second reading proposed. The President stated that in accordance with Standing Orders, the debates on the above bills were adjourned and the bills were referred to the House Committee.
The Secretary for Security moved the second reading and addressed the Council on each of the above two bills.
Question on the second reading proposed. The President stated that in accordance with Standing Orders, the debates on the above bills were adjourned and the bills were referred to the House Committee.
Resumption of debate on second reading which had been moved on 15 May 1996.
A Member spoke on the motion.
The Secretary for Recreation and Culture replied.
Question on second reading put and agreed to.
Bill read the second time and committed to a Committee of the whole Council.
Resumption of debate on second reading which had been moved on 14 February 1996.
Question on second reading put and agreed to.
Bill read the second time and committed to a Committee of the whole Council.
Resumption of debate on second reading which had been moved on 8 May 1996.
Question on second reading put and agreed to.
Bill read the second time and committed to a Committee of the whole Council.
The Council went into Committee and considered the following bills:
Question that the following clauses stand part of the bill proposed.
Question on clauses 1 and 2 put and agreed to.
Question that the following clauses stand part of the bill proposed.
Question on clauses 1 to 35 put and agreed to.
Question that the following clauses stand part of the bill proposed.
Question on clauses 1 to 34 put and agreed to.
The Council then resumed.
The Secretary for Recreation and Culture reported that
had passed through Committee without amendment. She moved that the bill be read the third time and do pass.
Question on the third reading proposed, put and agreed to.
Bill read the third time and passed.
The Secretary for Financial Services reported that
had passed through Committee without amendment. She moved that the bill be read the third time and do pass.
Question on the third reading proposed, put and agreed to.
Bill read the third time and passed.
The Secretary for Education and Manpower reported that
had passed through Committee without amendment. He moved that the bill be read the third time and do pass.
Question on the third reading proposed, put and agreed to.
Bill read the third time and passed.
Mr SZETO Wah moved the following motion and addressed the Council:
That this Council considers that Hong Kongs civil service system is the key element in maintaining the social stability, economic prosperity and smooth transition of the community, and opposes any person or organisation requiring, directly or indirectly, civil servants, especially principal policy secretaries, to declare their political stance and using such declaration as the criterion to examine their eligibility for transition to the new Government.
Question on Mr SZETO Wah's motion proposed. The President stated that Miss Emily LAU had given notice to move an amendment to the motion. He proposed that the motion and the proposed amendment be debated together in a joint debate. There being no dissenting voice, the President ordered that the motion and the proposed amendment be debated together in a joint debate.
Miss Emily LAU moved the following amendment to Mr SZETO Wah's motion and addressed the Council:
To add "; this Council also opposes the secondment of civil servants to the 'Provisional Legislature' as this is equivalent to declaration of political stance" after "transition to the new Government".
Question on Miss Emily LAU's amendment to Mr SZETO Wah's motion proposed.
18 Members spoke on the motion and the amendment.
Mr SZETO Wah spoke on the amendment.
The Secretary for the Civil Service spoke on the motion and the amendment.
Question on Miss Emily LAU's amendment to Mr SZETO Wah's motion put. The President stated that he thought the amendment had been agreed.
Miss Emily LAU claimed a division. The President then ordered the Council to divide under Standing Order 36(4).
The President announced that there were 28 votes for the amendment and 19 votes against it. (Voting record in Annex I.) He declared that Miss Emily LAU's amendment to Mr SZETO Wah's motion was agreed.
Mr SZETO Wah replied.
Question on Mr SZETO Wah's motion as amended by Miss Emily LAU put. The President stated that he thought the amended motion had been carried.
Mr TSANG Kin-shing and Miss Emily LAU claimed a division. The President then ordered the Council to divide under Standing Order 36(4).
The President announced that there were 28 votes for the amended motion and 19 votes against it. (Voting record in Annex II.) He declared that Mr SZETO Wah's motion as amended by Miss Emily LAU was carried.
Dr LAW Cheung-kwok moved the following motion and addressed the Council:
That the Government should enact legislation on fair trade and set up a Fair Trade Commission to enforce such legislation, so as to promote fair competition in various trades and industries and safeguard the interests of consumers.
At 6:36 p.m., the President's Deputy took the chair during the temporary absence of the President.
Question on Dr LAW Cheung-kwok's motion proposed.
Four Members spoke on the motion.
At 7:05 p.m., the President resumed the chair.
Another nine Members and the Secretary for Trade and Industry spoke on the motion.
Dr LAW Cheung-kwok replied.
Question on the motion put and agreed to.
In accordance with Standing Orders, the President adjourned the Council until Thursday, 30 May 1996.
Adjourned accordingly at eighteen minutes past eight oclock.
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